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Tune in to hear about:
- What are the signs of burn out
- How to correct the balance and reconnect with yourself
- What type of people are susceptible to burnout
- What is a cold depression and how do you get out of the briar patch
- Tips and insights on how you can harness your energy and connect on a higher spiritual level
About Corona Brady:
Anna Jonak: [00:00:52] Welcome to Episode 41 of the Brave Business Podcast. Anna Jonak here and today I'm here with Corona Brady and I am super excited. Now, Corona is a life coach. She's a mind detox therapist and senior, senior, well get the words out, Kundalini Yoga teacher which we’ll definitely be sharing more on because I'm not sure everybody knows what that is. I certainly experienced it myself now. I can share a little bit more. She's also the founder of the Energy for Life Academy where she takes women in business and corporate professionals from burnout and overwhelm to energetic joyful lives in just eight weeks or less. I mean and who doesn't want that, right? Pretty, pretty important. She's also trained in the field of life coaching for women with a speciality in mind detox therapy and the transformative power and technology of Kundalini Yoga. She is sought out for her advice everywhere. She brings so much, I just want to say chill, there's just a whole energy around you which brings people to a place where they can just relax and reconnect with something within themselves that is just on another level rather than being stuck in the everyday of ourselves I think. And I think that's what makes you so special. You have worked with women across the world, hundreds and hundreds of women across the world to help them kind of reconnect with their true energy. I came across you through James Schramko. I remember listening to James' podcast and your story really spoke to me and I'd love to share a bit of that with our listeners. But you've got your own podcast as well. [Corona agrees] The Energy for Life Podcast and I have to say I've listened to some amazing breathing techniques on that and I just love the way that you deliver the information and I would definitely encourage other people to go check out that podcast because not only are the teachings really inspirational but there's some fantastic tips and tools that you really deliver people that they can take into their everyday which is incredible. And you've also been appearing left, right, and centre in magazines and Channel Nine and the radio and you've kind of exploded. So welcome.
Corona Brady: [00:02:42] Thank you. Wow what a beautiful welcome to guest.
Anna Jonak: [00:02:47] Well, you're a special lady and I'm very excited to have you here for all of our listeners today. [Corona says well it's really an honour so thank you.] You're welcome. So talk to me. You and I have obviously connected before as I said I actually reached out to you on the back of James' podcast because on that podcast you definitely spoke about burnout. And I think for our audience with the juggle that we have with the kids and you know the family life and the house and the business and everything else, I think it's actually something that becomes quite prevalent and also something that... I sometimes don't even think we realise we're in the midst of burnout until it's almost a bit too late. And I thought it'd be really interesting to discuss that with you. But before we get into that, it would be really great for you to share a bit about your journey and your history because I think that really lends itself to the journey that you've gone on and the business and the teachings and in what you've created.
Corona Brady: [00:03:35] Yeah absolutely I'd love to. So if you haven't like guessed from my accent, I'm Irish and I've been living in Australia now 14 years and when I arrived in Australia I was actually caught up in the corporate grind. So I was working for a big bank, JP Morgan Bank, working in operations and never really satisfied. And I knew that it wasn't my real calling, but I just got caught up in this kind of cycle of when I get the management position then I'm going to be happy. And I think on some level because I had never gone to university, I think on some level I just had this stigma around you know I'm not intelligent enough or you know when I get this management level then my parents will be happy even though that was just not even true and they were happy with me. And so I yeah just got caught up in corporate life and was really unhappy, was anxious, depressed and just really numbing myself and with alcohol, going out all the time and feeling very very disconnected. I really didn't know who I was at all and the pressure in the corporate life you know working in operations, it was long hours and I just felt like I had to wear this mask every day and I find that very challenging as well. And so there's a part of me that was really kind of hiding myself going into work. I couldn't really show my true self. And so growing up in Ireland I think I never really having the name for it. I kind of grew up and pursuing this masculine brand of strength. So just pushing, striving, forcing, just very goal orientated Yeah. So that was my whole life and corporate I spent 12 years just kind of climbing the corporate ladder and I got the management position and was I happy? [both laugh] I was totally stressed. I couldn't sleep. I was really anxious. I was having nightmares. I was like Oh my God I don't know if I can do this. This is not what I really want. And so I was in work one day and it was just like this divine message came through me and I was just really instructed to give up my corporate job or I was gonna be really sick. And at that point I was just miserable and so I did. I resigned. But prior to that I was exploring all the different ideas of how I was going to escape the corporate grind. And I've always had an interest in natural healing and just from a very young age. And I think deep down I knew that I would take that path. But I think it all has to do with readiness as well. And so I was around 26, 27 at that point and I started my life coaching training. I started my yoga teacher training. I was doing all of this while you know working a full-time job. And so at the point then when I resigned, I didn't really know what I was going to do at that point. I was just like OK well I'll start teaching yoga and I'll see where it takes me. I created my business which was Nurture Pod back then. And then it's just kind of evolved you know. I'm now in business close to nine years and it's just evolved to where I am now where I'm kind of nearly back to corporate in terms of supporting women who work in corporate. And so I really get it. And I know what they're going through because I've actually been in that space. So I think this place I teach from is always from experience because I've been through that on some level and then it helps me to really support the woman because I really know deep down how she's feeling.
Anna Jonak: [00:07:13] Totally I think well I mean experience and understanding to have been through what you've been through and then to be able to bring that back. It's amazing how our life goes on a bit of a journey, isn't it? How we start out and you know maybe deep down you've always felt there's a calling somewhere and then you kind of get caught up in that and if it's a trap or just the what everybody else does. [Corona agrees] Then all of a sudden, you kind of have this opportunity to kind of go and do it. I mean I have to say from my perspective, I trained as a life coach and I'd always as a young girl wanted to do some kind of psychology and counselling. I actually did a degree in psychology but then went into advertising. So I kind of like got sidetracked in this area for a while but always kind of had this pull in a sense of wanting to go back to it. So I think it's amazing that people can follow that truth I guess that you kind of always knew was there and I mean especially to... I mean did you know when you kind of like pulled the pin on corporate you were like did you have everything lined up or were you just kind of flying by the seat of your pants?
Corona Brady: [00:08:14] I was flying by the seat of my pants I really was. [laughs] There was just this feeling in my heart that I'm gonna be OK. This is gonna work out even though I had no clue what I was going to do. I had my coaching certificate. I had my teaching and I just started teaching. I was teaching I think at one point, twenty classes a week. But it's interesting then because then I reached burnout again. There's been this pattern of burnout tracked my life and because what I found initially when I was operating in my business. Again I was operating from a very masculine place because that's the only way I knew how to work because that's how I was also operating and working in corporate life. So yeah, it's been an interesting journey. [laughs]
Anna Jonak: [00:08:57] So yeah talk to me about burnout.I was kind of wondering whether you saw there was a certain type of person that tended towards burnout. So whether you could be in it because for me like as a coach I kind of see it as it's an alignment with perfection in some way. [Corona agrees] But I'd be interested to know from your perspective like who's more prone to getting to the point of burnout than other people.
Corona Brady: [00:09:17] Yeah. So there’s, there's people like myself, high achievers. So high achievers, perfectionism traits as well. And basically burnout is just really when you're like outer demands, they're greater than your own inner capacity and inner reserves and a lot of the time you're not connected within yourself. So you don't have self-care you're not taking care of your energy and that then can lead to and I'll speak about this in a minute, cold depression which is actually something that we're really facing right now during these times of just high pressure and this is a term that comes from Kundalini Yoga. But yeah, the woman that comes into my world and that's experiencing burnout is high achiever. You know she's just got these big goals caught up in perfectionism and she's a goer like she's a doer. She's just always on. She can't sit still. Her mind is busy. Her body is busy. She's leaned more towards like running, like you know anything that's fast, busy, going, doing. And she finds it very hard to kind of sit down and meditate or practice yoga for example which is the old me. That's who I was. You know if I think back to who I was back in the corporate life that was me. I was kind of running on my nerves. I was always in that kind of stress response. I couldn't sit still.
Anna Jonak: [00:10:38] Well I feel you in that front. I think that I can totally acknowledge that feeling of being constantly on. So I would kind of identify with being that kind of person who is you know constantly moving, doing and it can be great from a business perspective because you certainly get things happening, stuff happens. However you do get to a point I think as you said that kind of running on an anxious energy and kind of feeling really edgy all the time and unable to slow down and I think that for anyone out there listening like those things that you really need to take heed of because I mean as you said you kind of like talk about the cold depression like what's the downward spiral? Where do we get to?
Corona Brady: [00:11:11] Yes. So the cold depression, so this is a term that comes from Kundalini Yoga and Yogi Bhajan brought these teachings to the West. And like they're not here a very long time actually maybe 30-40 years. And basically, he brought these teachings to the West because he said that we would need them right now during the times that we're living in because they’re such high pressure times. It's a time of information overload like there's just information. We're bombarded with information left, right and centre. And he said that we would need like a technology or science, practices that would help strengthen our nervous system because we need strong nervous systems, or we just won't cope, and we'll fall into the spiral of the cold depression. And the cold depression is actually, it's when you're so numb. You're so disconnected from yourself. Your outer demands are greater than your inner capacity. You don't have any more reserves of energy within. And so then when you don't have that you start looking outside for energy and that's when we get caught up in the cycle of maybe relying on a glass of wine every evening which is very common. I see this a lot for women. It's their way of distressing but actually that's numbing them from their spirit even more or they're using coffee or different things to distract them from themselves. So a lot of the time when people are experiencing cold depression, they actually don't even know. They don't even realise. Nobody would even think that they're depressed because it looks like they have everything together. They're busy. They're going. A lot of the time they're people that's busy, going, doing, they're kind of running on their nerves. They're running on this kind of anxiety and they lean more towards fast things you know bigger, faster, more and a lot of the time they might be runners like you know again hard to sit down, meditate, how to relax, always going yeah.
Anna Jonak: [00:12:59] So people getting to a point when they're numbing at the end of the day. I think a lot of listeners will relate to that. I mean actually in a pub this weekend on the back of we had a bit of a strategy session and there was a group of us at the table and it just became a massive discussion about alcohol and who drinks at the end of every day and how frequently people were drinking and whether it was every night, one glass or two glasses and how easy it became and the association that became linked with the end of the day and it being kind of like you know their symbol of the day ending or kind of the release of pressure or something that's just such an association with it that has been built up over time which is crazy.
Corona Brady: [00:13:35] And it's become normal now like it's a normal thing to do and it's OK and it's just kind of people do it as a little reward because of the day that they've had. So now this is my reward.
Anna Jonak: [00:13:45] Definitely. And I remember listening to Brene Brown and she talked about the fact that she used to drink a lot of alcohol and it was one of those things where she got to that moment when she was constantly feeling frustrated and anxious and stressed and she said to herself like I've got to get out the briar patch. Like what do I do to protect... First of all, she was thinking what do I do to protect myself from what was going on? And then it kind of got her to a point which is actually I need to get out of here what am I doing? Like I need to.. it was all about getting to that point. Yeah obviously like you felt as well where you had to create change because.. yeah you can't say where you are trying to protect yourself in something which isn't good. It's about actually sitting in that space and going life isn't great right now or things aren't working right now so what actually physically needs to change and taking action. So I'd love to know so the women have come to you through their obviously their burnout and doing all these things. What's the process that you take them through to help them I guess get out like move out of that space and what kind of journey do they go on?
Corona Brady: [00:14:40] Yeah, it's a beautiful journey that they go on and the way that I work it's very holistically. So like I don't just focus on like the physical body because you can't. You have to look at all aspects of yourself. So the way that I work is yes we look at the physical body and we look at what they're physically doing and what they're actually putting into their body and what they're nourishing themselves with. But also, we look at the mind and the thoughts and you know what kind of relaxation techniques they have and then we also look at the spirit, how connected or disconnected they are from their spirit and then the emotions. So a lot of the time when a woman kind of comes into my world and you know she's feeling very dis-empowered and she's really seeking power on some level and more empowerment. She wants to feel empowered again and in control in her life. And so the first thing that we do straightaway is we look at well how is she starting each day? Does she have self-care? Does she have a morning ritual? And to be honest the majority of women don't. There's a very small percentage that begin the journey with me and they have morning rituals. A lot of the time they're kind of getting up hitting snooze 10 times, grabbing a coffee and then they're actually starting the day in that sympathetic nervous system which is that stress response. And if that's how you're starting then that's how the day is going to be and of course you going to need then a glass of wine at the end of the day to try to kind of find balance even though that's not what the wine is actually doing. But you know that's what your mind is thinking that it's doing. So the first thing that we do is really take them on a journey of actually creating a self-care practice and a morning ritual a Sadhana which is really just a spiritual practice, a way of actually connecting back to the true essence. There's Satnam which is just a mantra we use in Kundalini Yoga and it just means my name is true. So it's helping the woman connect to the truth that's already within them. But maybe it's being covered and covered with all sorts of things. So we start them off on a morning ritual and you know that ritual it's just baby steps. I don't get the woman to start off with an hour because I'd have nobody left in the program. We just start off with like 5-10 minutes and then we're really building on that each week and adding more onto it. So what happens is they really form a very supportive positive habit. But the great thing is because Kundalini Yoga is so powerful and it's so instant like you do a breathing exercise for three minutes and you will see and feel the shift. The women get really excited because they actually see and notice the shift in their energy and vitality, actually within the first week of us working together. So it's that profound it's that quick and a lot of the time you know the women coming on board they can't believe that they can get changed so quickly but it happens and that then encourages them to continue with that practice and then it's really looking at their mind, looking at belief system. I was trained in a really powerful technique called The Mind Detox Therapy and it's really working with the subconscious mind and we really look at kind of their beliefs and why they're feeling stuck. A lot of the time it's their mind and stories from their past trauma from their past. So it's really getting to the roots of their issues and a lot of the time this is stemmed back from childhood. We're working with those and just really weeding all of those out and then not only are we setting them up in the morning but then we're also looking at OK what are you doing in the evening? Because if they need to get up in the morning, they need to be winding down in the evening. And so really teaching them how to wind down so that they're no longer relying on a glass of wine because there's actually other ways that you can supportively wind down. And it's really showing them how to do that then supporting them to really connect back inside and really build that strong sense of self-worth and self-love. And really making their self-care become a non-negotiable. And then looking at like food. So we look at everything we look at really all those four aspects. But the transformations that the women receive it's just mind blowing to you know to have that first conversation with the woman and then to see her eight weeks later and she's just a brighter more energised version of self and a lot of the time losing weight during that time too because a lot of the women that come to me might be carrying extra weight and they've tried all sorts of diets. Nothing's worked because it's emotional baggage they're holding on to. So we really work at that level. You know I really empowered them and it's really an empowerment journey I'm teaching them, showing them how to kind of become empowered in their own life so they're not relying on anybody outside of them to fix them.
Anna Jonak: [00:19:36] Well that's it. I mean it's really interesting because I mean we do a lot in our program around beliefs because I mean so many people have these feelings of lack of self-worth or lack of self-belief and it just haunts them in their inability to take action on not being able to put themselves out there in their business. But I do think as well that for a lot of us there's issues around self-care that come also from, I wonder whether it's just these stereotypes of what one should be as a parent or as a wife and all these bits and pieces and you kind of find yourself kind of fighting and pushing up against the stereotype of being there for everybody else and doing all these things and your self-care gets put right down the bottom.
Corona Brady: [00:20:13] Yeah. And I think it's also maybe what we witnessed in our own mother you know so what we saw growing up how she might have taken care of herself or how she didn't take care of herself. And so then that's the messaging that we receive that we need to put everyone else before ourselves because maybe that's what our mother did. I know that that's been the case for me anyway and a lot of the women that I've worked with so it's really then changing that, reframing it and creating new beliefs. That's going to support them.
Anna Jonak: [00:20:39] Absolutely. Well yeah I see a lot of the similarities in our community with the like you said as they come in and how they're feeling about themselves and self-care is certainly something that not all of them practice and it's something that's so important especially I think with all the juggle and the stress of running a business and the kids and the crazy that is to be able to find that time and kind of create it and I do question whether we just need to accept that everything can't be as fast as we want it to be tomorrow and slow things down to a point where everything's kind of like you're working towards your bigger picture but you've also got self-care side of stuff so that you're going to get there in a much better mental healthy state.
Corona Brady: [00:21:17] Yes. And I also think it has to do with where you are in your life cycle because based off where you are in your life cycle, you might be just in a very busy period. If you've got young kids but also just having some self-acceptance around that that's not where I'm going to be forever. This is just a period right now and I need to find a self-care practice that's going to work for this period and because yeah a lot of the time it's the cycle that we're in in life.
Anna Jonak: [00:21:40] Oh the cycles of life. Talk to me about that one. What do we go through? What's next? [both laugh]
Corona Brady: [00:21:46] Yeah. Well there's like four cycles a woman kind of moves through you know from age zero to 15 and that's like menarche and that's like her first bleed and then she moves into the next phase of her life which you know takes her up to just pre mother years and that's you know. If you think back to that time you're you know in your early 20s, you're free and you know you're not really thinking about anybody else that's just about you. It's a carefree time. And you know you don't have any worries at all. And then you know you become a mum and that's really the busiest time in our life. And you know for some women that starts younger and you know it can start you know mid 20s late 20s and now it's a little bit later because we're having babies later and then that takes you up to around the mid to late kind of 40s and then you might notice around then if you've had kids earlier that the kids are now getting a little bit older and your responsibilities aren't so great. And yeah and then we move into the last phase which is the Crone.
Anna Jonak: [00:22:49] That one's gonna be an interesting one I say. The one right now with most of us being in motherhood. We had a conversation on this on the weekend as well on the strategy day about a real, from the previous when you had no responsibilities is a real sense of loss. There's a lot of coping with loss.
Corona Brady: [00:23:05] Yeah there is a huge loss and there should be like it's a grieving because each time you move through each one. Yeah. You're losing something you're losing some part of yourself.
Anna Jonak: [00:23:16] And I think that that needs to be acknowledged because we feel guilty, that you kind of feel guilty that you feel this sense of loss in yourself and that you're giving over yourself to your children and you love your children but there's still that kind of you know you love yourself and you want to give to yourself. So it's an interesting one where there's a battle there as well where people feel resentful because they're not getting the time and all these things. There's a lot to think about hey as women I mean I do think we'd end up like no disrespect to the men but I do think it's a different journey and I think so many more expectations put upon women with the juggle. And Flori and I, my business partner, moan many times that our husbands who just kind of, it just seems a bit easier like there with that you know they do the job and don't get me wrong, they play their role and they do things. But from doing all the school bits and pieces to the business, to the welfare of the kids, the shopping, the house and everything else, and we can't we can't. We do try where we can to share responsibility but maybe because of the hours and the way they work. But yes pretty intense. [laugh]
Corona Brady: [00:24:18] Yeah. And I think it's more like women we’re more emotional as well. So then because we're waxing and waning with the moon like we're ever changing always changing whereas men their emotions are going to be more stable. So yeah there's a lot going on all the time for us as women.
Anna Jonak: [00:24:34] So does that give us permission to be more emotional when we blame the moon? [laugh]
Corona Brady: [00:24:38] Absolutely because we were meant to be emotional. We're not meant to have a flat state you know and it's just riding that wave and being okay with that. I think looking out to the moon and watching all the phases of the moon, that's a practice I do with the women and where because we are the moon you know. The man is the sun, the heat. The woman is cooling, she's the moon and it's actually just connecting with the moon and watching the phases but then connecting back into your own body and observing what happens at each phase and working with that energy using that energy.
Anna Jonak: [00:25:12] You have like you obviously speak like a whole different language to me with the way that you think. [both laughing] So I'm really interested to know with obviously from going from a corporate environment to this with this you know I mean it might be useful just to explain what Kundalini Yoga is, I didn't think about that. Do you want to do that?
Corona Brady: [00:25:30] Yeah I do think there are many people out there probably that wouldn't have a clue what Kundalini Yoga is. The community is starting to grow in Australia. It's slow but it's growing. And but Kundalini Yoga basically it's a very different style of yoga to any of the other forms of yoga and why I love this practice is that you do the practice with your eyes closed. So and it's very different to say Vinyasa class are Hatha class where your eyes are opened, and you know you're looking for the perfect alignment and you might be looking outside yourself and comparing yourself to the person next to you. This is an inner practice, so you close your eyes, you drop inside and it's a connect. It's a practice to connect to your own spirit, to your own soul and the practice is basically when the Kundalini which is the energy that sits at the base of the spine and it's your creative sexual energy. Everyone has this energy but I think for many people it's actually lying asleep and lying dormant and so they never even know it's there. They never tap into this energy which is a real tragedy because when you tap into this energy you start to awaken this energy and you start to live with more awareness more consciousness and what that basically means is that you're not so triggered to everything that's happening in your environment and you're more neutral. You're more awake. You're more aware and you're living each day kind of with your eyes opened like as if you were seeing life for the first time and when you awaken that energy it's basically just creative life force. So with that energy you get a lot of creativity, ideas, insights, inspiration and you can use that energy as a positive advantage in your life. A lot of the women I work with really plug it into their business. Plug it into their work their career where they want to be of service in their life and it's just your potential and everyone has it within them. But for many people they never know it's there. But what Kundalini does is it strengthens your nervous system, so you know during these high-pressure times now we need strong nervous systems and you know there's a lot of people having breakdowns because they're not coping and I'm sure you're seeing that we all are seeing somebody around us that's just not coping with the demands of life. And so that's because their nervous systems are probably not strong enough. The practice actually helps strengthen your nervous system. It balances your glandular system and you're just feeling happier. You know life is just flowing and you're dealing with stresses. You're coping but you're not just coping, you're thriving.
Anna Jonak: [00:28:08] It sounds amazing. Obviously I've reached out to you and we've had a session and it was an amazing session and felt very tired afterwards I could go to sleep. But I love the whole concept and it's something that for me personally I have to say I'm really interested in exploring further you know how you said you had like an awakening with where you were at in your life. I kind of feel like I'm reaching that point in mine where I love everything I do but I feel like this is sort of a level of spirituality or something missing where I'm not connecting to something that is greater within me or with you see what I mean? And I kind of feel like I have been dancing around in this space of kind of feeling like I need to be connected to something else on another level on and off now for about I'd say the last twelve months.
Corona Brady: [00:28:54] Yeah Kundalini Yoga will absolutely do that for you because yeah that's a practice that will support you to do that.
Anna Jonak: [00:29:01] Well can you share with us how like your life has changed because as I was saying like you do speak a different language like in the journey that you've gone on and it'll be really interesting to be able to kind of share the transformation that you've had personally outside of what you do and what you teach but how it impacts your ability in your everyday to cope, to you know you don't have to pick up a glass of wine or whatever it is and how you just feel that you can approach your business even.
Corona Brady: [00:29:24] Yeah. So I think you know just through the practice of Kundalini. What drew me into kundalini was the chanting the mantras because I love music and I love singing and it just like lights up my whole spirit. So I was practicing Hatha Yoga for many years and I used to teach Hatha Yoga and I felt like something was missing just like what you said it felt like there was just something. I was missing something spiritually and I was longing for something spiritually and something deeper. And that's when Kundalini Yoga came into my life and just the sacred mantras are just so beautiful. They're so healing and so you know since kind of jumping on board Kundalini Yoga now it must be maybe six or seven years I've been practising, my whole world has just changed. You know my business has transformed for the better. Just on every level. Because what the Kundalini energy does what's not meant to be in your life and this is where people can get a little bit scared sometimes because the energy is so powerful. It's so transformative that where you might be living in misalignment, the energy will move to that area and that will slowly move out of your life. And so that can be a bit scary because sometimes we can be attached to what we have. And so you know for instance you know when I first started practising Kundalini and I started my teacher training there was a lot of work that I would have been doing and then it was just taken off me and I did of course go into a stage of panic but I think there was a deeper knowing that that work had kind of run its course and something else was about to come in and something else did come in. So it's just kind of having trust you know that that will happen. And so my business has really transformed. I think I've really been able to kind of step more and more into who I am. And then as a result being able to kind of offer my gifts out into the world and it's really helped me open up my voice and heal my voice because my voice was very shut down for many many years and I've actually last year I recently separated. I'm going through divorce soon and I was in a relationship for 18 years. We were married for five. He was a beautiful beautiful man but we were just travelling different journeys. We started to grow apart but never came back really together. And so I think just through the practice of the Kundalini Yoga and that energy that's there has really supported me to just release that relationship that's no longer serving me. And also know that I'll be OK because letting go of a relationship that's nearly 20 years old is yeah [Anna says it's a big one] It's a big one. So yeah it's supported me on every level and even down to the alcohol I used to drink a lot. You know being Irish I drank a lot of alcohol. And you know even now to the point where like I don't drink a lot now at all I might have the odd glass of wine here or there but I'm wanting to challenge myself right now in just completely giving up because why do I need it actually at all and setting myself out on a challenge and yeah not feeling like I need that anymore to destress or to even catch up with a friend or to have fun. It's finding new ways.
Anna Jonak: [00:32:42] Definitely. It sounds like a whole. I just a whole another way of being. And yeah like I said I think I'm ready. I'm ready to embrace another way of being in amongst the crazy of all that we do. And I'm sure there are lots of other people out there who feel similarly. So I think that I would love to send them to where you... actually do you want to send them to your podcast? Would you like to give them some places to come and find you?
Corona Brady: [00:33:07] Yes absolutely. So you can go over to my website at coronabrady.com and I have a prerecorded webinar there you can sign up for the training and it's really supporting you through burnout and you'll actually experience some of the Kundalini practices on that training. And then if you can resonate you can relate to that, there's an option to book in for a call at the end and you'll always be speaking to me personally. And I'm also running a Kundalini program in Sydney which I'm very excited about because I just came back to Sydney after living in the Blue Mountains for two years and I haven't been able to offer classes in Sydney for nearly three years and I really miss teaching so I'm excited to be offering a program next month in Paddington, Sydney. And that's a eight week program just for stress and vitality where you'll really get to experience the practice in a small kind of group and that's all on my web site. I also run retreats. I have a retreat coming up this year in September. I've a live event this weekend Daring to be Courageous and that's on Saturday and Sunday in Sydney. And I also have a podcast show and it's all on my web site. Everything is there on my website.
Anna Jonak: [00:34:16] Just a few things. [laughs] Well I'm going to be eyeing off your next September event. So you definitely need to keep me in tune with that one and is that going to be like the retreat style?
Corona Brady: [00:34:27] Yeah that's in the Blue Mountains I have a beautiful venue up there where I rent out a whole estate and I've been using this venue now for the past four or five years and it's just completely immersed in nature. I got a beautiful chef who comes in. It's all organic, gluten free, dairy free, just beautiful food. And we just sit in circle and it's incredibly healing. Lots of time in nature. There's a lake on the property. It's a magnificent weekend just for you.
Anna Jonak: [00:34:58] Yeah well that's what people need, isn't it? A weekend for themselves. I definitely encourage them, anyone, to reach out have a look, check it out and listen to the podcast. It's like I said some great breathing exercises on there. I've done them in person. I've also done them through listening to the podcast and they are actually as you said they're quite transformative. If you can kind of just throw yourself into them to feel that energy and waking yourself up. I'm sure that everybody listening has started to think a little bit differently about how maybe they want to move forward or perhaps some of the practices that they have in their everyday that maybe aren't serving them and and whether they need to slow down and give themselves permission to look after themselves and actually lean into it. And I really hope that you go and check out Corona's stuff. Now one more thing before we do wrap up I did want to just speak to a tiny bit on the business front and to I guess because you've come from a life coaching space and obviously like myself there are so many life coaches out there that kind of star in in their training and then they fail to get anywhere which is obviously really sad. And I would love for you to share I guess your insights to the journey that you've been on using this and kind of like whether you know what's worked for you. Is it leaning into your gift? Is it being about vision and pursuing that? Has it been about the niche that you find yourself in? What is it that's really work for you so that the coaches out there can kind of appreciate someone as legendary as yourself and give them some tips on where they might be able to go.
Corona Brady: [00:36:23] Well the first thing that I would say is like it's so important to have mentors because when I started off on my journey of operating my business it was kind of feast or famine. I had no marketing system I had no funnel I had nothing and it was fine. I always had enough first because I just have a big mission and I really want to impact as many women as possible while I'm alive I knew that I had to find a new way of operating because it was quite stressful the way I had been operating and never really knowing where the next client was going to come from. And I was kind of doing everything I was sending out X amount of newsletters. I was just everywhere but not really having any real strategy that worked. So I've been very lucky to have some really incredible mentors and I've invested huge amounts but I think every cent that I have spent has just paid back tenfold and that is just the first thing that I would suggest and recommend is hiring the best mentor and just paying the mentor whatever you need to pay them because it's just going to be worth every cent and making sure that you're aligned to that mentor of course. That's what I did and that's what enabled me to kinda have the online business now that I have meaning that I can just kind of operate from everywhere. Whereas before I was kind of seeing people more kind of one on one and physically whereas now I kind of I choose my own hours and I can work the way that I'm working online which is the way that I want to work out.
Anna Jonak: [00:38:01] Totally. When you're working one to many, I think anytime we see like new coaches coming through and they kind of start thinking in that way of working one on one and you're going to burn out. There's only so many hours in this. It's very full-on and obviously with the kind of work you're doing as a coach whatever your niche is it's also quite draining because you're kind of you know you're there with the person in the space. [Corona agrees] So I think that moving to a space where you can work one to many is obviously where it's at. But as you said you have to plug into systems that work so that your thinking is almost just thinking about allowing someone to teach you how to get your gift out en masse, right?
Corona Brady: [00:38:36] That's exactly it. That is exactly it's allowing somebody to teach you how to get your gift out there. And I think also I used to kind of serve everyone and now I've really got very focused on who I serve. And you know that works for me because actually that's my background. So why wouldn't I serve that woman? So yeah.
Anna Jonak: [00:38:54] It's funny how you come full circle on that front because I swore I'd never do coaching to business like business kind of style coaching because I came from a corporate environment when I was in media marketing and all that kind of stuff and I was like I'm never going there. I'm just going to work with the holistic side of helping people find themselves and move forward and then it kind of came back full circle that I couldn't really escape it because there's an element of the skills that I had and actually that I really enjoy it just wasn't in that environment. [Corona agrees] I think that there's definitely an element of what you said there in trusting the universe or however you choose to see it will kind of help you find your path. You've got to I guess lean in and go on the journey.
Corona Brady: [00:39:30] Yeah I think it's really important to surround yourself with the right people as well because yeah it's just super important to surround yourself with people that are in business and people that do have big dreams and goals so they help kind of support you to think bigger. [Anna agrees] And they push you, you know.
Anna Jonak: [00:39:47] Different level of conversation when you go out with your girlfriends who don't have businesses to those because they don't really understand it. They don't really understand all the juggle, all that money spent or the hours. [Corona agrees] So do you have yourself a nice circle of business people that you get to hang with?
Corona Brady: [00:40:08] I do. Yeah. That's really what I've been focused on now. You know since coming back to Sydney because I'm not back in Sydney long. Well I'll be back in Sydney you know a year this year. So that was really important to me I was like I have to find a good circle of, because I have really good a good circle of friends but not all of them are in business. So that was really really important that I find a good circle that yeah they push you. They encourage you. They get it. They get the whole roller coaster. You know one day you can be feeling depressed, the next day... [Anna agrees and both laugh]
Anna Jonak: [00:40:41] Yeah. I feel you on that front. The roller coaster is real. We've had a few strategy days recently where we've got a mastermind and we've also got our main program where we have like two days of training and I have to say every time I connect with the women in those scenarios there's just another level of conversation and energy that you walk away with because you're kind of all on the same plane and there's some kind of a connection which is amazing. So I certainly feel you on that front. Can I please request personally that you have some yoga sessions up on the North Shore please? Because Paddington is too far from me. [both laugh]
Corona Brady: [00:41:11] Yeah. You know what I'm wanting to do that, it's just finding a space. That's my challenge at the moment. It's not easy to find spaces.
Anna Jonak: [00:41:19] I can imagine. So are actually taking over space. or you were in a...
Corona Brady: [00:41:23] No it's you know, it's interesting. It's actually a space that I used to run courses and years ago and like about three years ago and I just said you know what I'll reach out to the lady and see if there's any way that Monday evening class is available and it was available. So that's OK. This is a sign I just have to go back into where I began.
Anna Jonak: [00:41:42] Well if you do come up the North Shore I will gather troops and bring them to you so that we can all go to the transformation together because I'm so keen. Although Paddington is my old herd when I was like the single lady. So you know it's just just too far with the kids right now. But I love it. OK well look thank you so much for sharing today. I think that there's lots of food for thought for so many people listening with regards to I guess thinking about how they're feeling in themselves, how they're treating themselves, maybe how they really want to feel and that sense of I kind of hope that we've maybe got a few people thinking about are they really satisfied or is there something that they feel that they're missing or want to be connected to. Because as I said it's it's a big thing coming up in my life and I trust that maybe it's an age thing as well as you're kind of headed towards your 40s and you're like is there more? Is there another level?
Corona Brady: [00:42:28] Yeah you're at that halfway point. You know you're getting to midlife and yeah you're you're starting to ask those really big questions. Am I happy? Where am I going? You know where do I want to be in ten years time. Yeah all of those big questions as we start approaching our 40s. It's big.
Corona Brady: [00:42:46] My business partner is good. She's a bit younger than I am but I'm going to have to get her to listen to this. I'm like just in case you see me having like a midlife crisis. It's totally normal. I'm going on a journey right now. [both laugh] As we wrap things up, we normally leave our listeners with a bit of a parting thought. So whether it's some business or a mindset or just how you treat yourself, what would you like to leave people thinking about as we wrap up today? No pressure.
Corona Brady: [00:43:12] Yeah well I'm going to speak about the energy. OK. Because energy is so important. And it's interesting because I think so many people there's so much burnout and there's so much fatigue and a lot of the people just settle where they've been feeling for a very long time. But what I would actually encourage you to start doing from today is start rating your energy on like say a scale of zero to 10. Just so you can start to get curious where you're sitting in terms of your own vitality on a daily basis. Like so when you wake up, you know what would you rate at us at the midway point of the day, what would you rate at us? And then as you slowly progressed into the second half of the day what would you rate at and that's going to really give you a good idea of what's going on energetically.
Anna Jonak: [00:43:57] I'm like zero maybe five. Zero at the beginning of the day, five and it goes downhill. [both laugh]
Corona Brady: [00:44:02] So you want to be beginning each day with you know sitting at eight, nine, ten.
Anna Jonak: [00:44:08] That would be amazing. Okay. Well there we go. I'll keep you posted. [both laugh] Keep you posted on how I go everybody out there. Okay ladies. That's a wrap. As always, remember to be brave in your business.
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